Pip should auto-update

This would be good because laggard users of pip tend to stymie adoption of new community standards.

Obviously it would be quite a bit to do this all in one step, here’s a roadmap I can imagine:

• Anytime pip contacts PyPI it checks to see if there’s a new version, and notifies the user.
• If pip detects that it is out of date, it prompts the user to upgrade right then and there
• A new env var PIP_AUTO_UPDATE which, if set, causes it to auto-update when it’s out of date
• Turning that env var on by default and requiring users to set PIP_NO_AUTO_UPDATE to opt out

Probably this could also upgrade setuptools and other core packaging packages.

(Probably this should only happen when running inside of a venv)

[dstufft]

Closing this, while I love the idea of getting people onto a newer version, I still think that people need to be involved in state changes to their Python environments.

[eskhool]

umm, but that’s surely why open source maintainers get our eternal undying gratitude 😉 …I think this slight automation would be popular especially pip is a backbone powering the pypi universe for almost everybody now. and most people are not using pip features that are version dependent. For the majority of us, we want the latest and greatest pip and without having to check or run the upgrade command and pip is quite actively upgraded.

All automations can be manually worked around till it is supported and adds to the maturity of the solution in question.

Many thanks again!

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Ronny Pfannschmidt < [e-mail]> wrote:

surely, but you also need someone caring about that and implementing it - it takes a while to write that and make a automated test for it

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