Neutral chat icons

Can Fabulously Optimized reflect the chat state in a more neutral way, while still being more informative than vanilla?

• Disable vanilla’s chat icons and keep No Chat Reports’ - current state; works, but is biased towards chat reporting being bad
• Disable vanilla’s and No Chat Reports’ chat icons - no clutter, but users may think that chat reporting is enabled everywhere or nowhere
• Disable No Chat Reports’ chat icons and keep vanilla’s - no awareness, users may get misled by the vanilla’s unsigned chat icons
• Disable vanilla’s chat icons, retexture No Chat Reports’ ones - currently considered
• Disable No Chat Reports itself - no awareness + loss of privacy by signing messages where not required + annoying toast
• More ideas?

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As of Minecraft 1.19.2, these are the chat indicators:

• is displayed for unmodified, unsigned chat (e.g. vanilla servers); the bar on the left is red
  • Tooltip: This message is not secure, which means that it might have been modified by the server
  • As of 1.19.3, this icon is removed, the bar on the left is gray and the tooltip is Unverified message. Cannot be reported.
• A toast might appear if the server allows unsigned chat:

"Chat messages can't be verified"

Messages sent on this server may be
modified and might not reflect the
original message

• Gray bars are displayed for system messages, or all messages in servers that disable chat reporting

Pros:

• Consistency - that’s what everyone sees nowadays

Cons:

• Users cannot know, which servers enforce chat reporting
• Users see unsigned messages as “bad” (until 1.19.3)
• Users don’t know that chat reporting is a thing in the first place (until 1.19.3… if they hover)
• Users don’t know the risks of chatting with chat reporting
• Users do not know about Realms’ chat surveillance
• Users don’t know what the “can’t be verified” message means
• Users don’t know why in some servers chats cannot be reported even if they don’t see the toast

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As of No Chat Reports 1.13.9, these are the chat indicators:

• - only on Realms: chat is constantly monitored by Mojang and can be reported
• - any sent chat messages can be reported
• - chat signing is not enforced, NCR users’ (incl. FO users’) chats are not signed while vanilla clients’ may be (depending on the server)
• - chat signing is disabled for all parties

Pros:

• Users can know whether chat reports exist in the server
• Users can know what the effects of chat reports are
• Users can know about the chat surveillance of Realms
• The “can’t be verified” toast is removed
• The “message is not secure” icon is removed

Cons:

• Icons and communication are biased towards the chat reporting being bad
• The green state is rarely shown, so yellow is mostly misleading (fixed in 1.19.3)
• Users may not understand, why their messages are displayed differently to others in vanilla servers (fixed in 1.19.3)

[Madis0]

Here’s a first draft of simplified tooltips:

"gui.nochatreports.status_secure": "Everyone's chat messages cannot be reported to Mojang.",
"gui.nochatreports.status_unintrusive": "Your chat messages cannot be reported to Mojang, others' messages might be.",
"gui.nochatreports.status_insecure": "Everyone's chat messages can be reported to Mojang.",
"gui.nochatreports.status_realms": "Everyone's chat messages can be reported to Mojang, and Mojang is passively monitoring for potential offenses.",
"gui.nochatreports.status_insecure_whitelist_all_servers": "Everyone's chat messages can be reported to Mojang.",

(original ones can be found here)

The icons could perhaps be a play on the Mojang logo “M”:

• Realms: M + camera or eyes
• Insecure: M
• Unintrusive: crossed or grayed out M
• Secure: crossed or grayed out M

In any case, I wouldn’t release this change before the release of 1.19.3, because they are changing some aspects of chat already.

Edit: actually - not the Mojang logo, to avoid further confusion. It should be something even more neutral.

[Madis0]

The contrast has been drastically increased in 4.6.0-alpha.10. The eye was replaced with a “recording” icon.